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Grassroots
October 12, 2008
11:38 AM PDT
The 'United States of Goldman Sachs'!
Who is Paulson? Who is HE!

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2008/sep2008/paul-s23.shtml

You see how TIGHTLY wrapped in each others 'arms',the BANKS/INVESTORS and OUR GOVERNMENT ARE?
They STAFF each other,feed each other and BAIL EACH OTHER OUT!
Regardless of BAD PERFORMANCES HISTORIES,or WHAT happens to us,the majority(80%)of Americans!
And OUR MONEY PAYS THESE GUYS OBNOXIOUS SALARIES and SPA 'treatments'?
Our US Treasury is NOW Goldman Sachs,and OUR FEDERAL RESERVE is a Corporate entity owned by FOREIGNER Corporations MAINLY!
It's ludicrous,FRAUDULENT,UNCONSTITUTIONAL,UNAMERICAN,AND BLATANTLY CRIMINAL!


Grassroots
October 9, 2008
11:51 AM PDT
Hank 'the bankrupt bank' Paulson says more banks WILL GO DOWN?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/financialcrisis/3161132/Financial-crisis-Hank-Paulson-warns-that-more-banks-and-businesses-will-fail.html

Oh really hank,well I guess we should get our 700 BILLION BUCKS BACK THEN! EH?
And you can trot off to jail where you belong!
thegardener
October 8, 2008
3:57 PM PDT
Oh boy, we are in rare form lately, aren't we!!
I don't think I can handle throwing my home grown spares at a worthless govt, my chickens would get angry and not give me any eggs! I wonder IF Americans will reach a boiling point -- with all the cross breeding that has gone on over the centuries, it seems we have a lot of wimps and homo's out there!!


SO---how far do you think "they" are going to allow the stock markets to go down?
Grassroots
October 8, 2008
1:11 PM PDT
It's called landowners and serfs!
It's back to the Monarchical time of Charles 1st and before!
Save your home-grown spares and keep them in the bin to rot,it will be time for pitchforks and throwing rotten vegetables,at the Government and the CEO's soon, and I can hear those Marie-Antoinette guillotines ratching up!
Americans will only take SO MUCH ,before they are pushed over the line of tolerance.
I hope! Anyway!
Unless there IS SOMETHING in the air or water!
Anthrax maybe?
thegardener
October 5, 2008
8:42 AM PDT
There's only so much blood they can get out of the beet when they know can't get blood from the turnip...

The rich and ultra-rich will keep sucking everything from the poor and middle poor until they own everything--including the few middle poor that will actually survive having everything taken from them. And to hell with the poor--they're going to die off with starvation and drug abuse anyway--right? Oh, but they will act like they care by providing them with shitty health care and shitty education-knowing they they are doing this just to make their gov't look good...

As for me, I will gladly go out with the poor--refusing to be enslaved by the ultra rich!

Grassroots
October 4, 2008
10:20 AM PDT
Oh don't worry,you'll see the debt rise gardener,IN YOUR TAX BILLS!
But AIG are having a BALL,and a big luxurious BASH at OUR expense!
Where is PAULSON?
Oh! he must be with the Chinese pole-dancers inside.
Wonder what Lehmans did for their belly-up bash,epecially on HUGO CHAVES's invested billions!
Oh,that's right!
That went MYSTERIOUSLY 'missing'(probably half-way to Israel by now)!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x4166429

Remember VOTERS,we will be paying for ALL THIS,while we struggle to stay afloat into the next Presidency! Whoop Dee-Doodoo!
thegardener
October 4, 2008
6:38 AM PDT
Doesn't 700 billion = 7 trillion?? I guess using the word billion doesn't sound as bad as trillion...oh brother!
Grassroots
October 3, 2008
6:16 PM PDT
LIST OF REPRESENTATIVES WHO SWITCHED from NAY to YEA! On Oct 3rd.
Mine just said GOODBYE to MY vote!

http://www.campaignforliberty.com/blog.php?view=1087#.
atliberty
October 1, 2008
12:59 PM PDT
How dod your congresscritter Vote?

House Roll Call

ALABAMA
Democrats — Cramer, Y; Davis, Y.
Republicans — Aderholt, N; Bachus, Y; Bonner, Y; Everett, Y; Rogers, Y.
ALASKA
Republicans — Young, N.
ARIZONA
Democrats — Giffords, N; Grijalva, N; Mitchell, N; Pastor, N.
Republicans — Flake, N; Franks, N; Renzi, N; Shadegg, N.
ARKANSAS
Democrats — Berry, Y; Ross, Y; Snyder, Y.
Republicans — Boozman, Y.
CALIFORNIA
Democrats — Baca, N; Becerra, N; Berman, Y; Capps, Y; Cardoza, Y; Costa, Y; Davis, Y; Eshoo, Y; Farr, Y; Filner, N; Harman, Y; Honda, Y; Lee, N; Lofgren, Zoe, Y; Matsui, Y; McNerney, Y; Miller, George, Y; Napolitano, N; Pelosi, Y; Richardson, Y; Roybal-Allard, N; Sanchez, Linda T., N; Sanchez, Loretta, N; Schiff, N; Sherman, N; Solis, N; Speier, Y; Stark, N; Tauscher, Y; Thompson, N; Waters, Y; Watson, N; Waxman, Y; Woolsey, N.
Republicans — Bilbray, N; Bono Mack, Y; Calvert, Y; Campbell, Y; Doolittle, N; Dreier, Y; Gallegly, N; Herger, Y; Hunter, N; Issa, N; Lewis, Y; Lungren, Daniel E., Y; McCarthy, N; McKeon, Y; Miller, Gary, Y; Nunes, N; Radanovich, Y; Rohrabacher, N; Royce, N.
COLORADO
Democrats — DeGette, Y; Perlmutter, Y; Salazar, N; Udall, N.
Republicans — Lamborn, N; Musgrave, N; Tancredo, Y.
CONNECTICUT
Democrats — Courtney, N; DeLauro, Y; Larson, Y; Murphy, Y.
Republicans — Shays, Y.
DELAWARE
Republicans — Castle, Y.
FLORIDA
Democrats — Boyd, Y; Brown, Corrine, Y; Castor, N; Hastings, Y; Klein, Y; Mahoney, Y; Meek, Y; Wasserman Schultz, Y; Wexler, Y.
Republicans — Bilirakis, N; Brown-Waite, Ginny, N; Buchanan, N; Crenshaw, Y; Diaz-Balart, L., N; Diaz-Balart, M., N; Feeney, N; Keller, N; Mack, N; Mica, N; Miller, N; Putnam, Y; Ros-Lehtinen, N; Stearns, N; Weldon, Y; Young, N.
GEORGIA
Democrats — Barrow, N; Bishop, Y; Johnson, N; Lewis, N; Marshall, Y; Scott, N.
Republicans — Broun, N; Deal, N; Gingrey, N; Kingston, N; Linder, N; Price, N; Westmoreland, N.
HAWAII
Democrats — Abercrombie, N; Hirono, N.
IDAHO
Republicans — Sali, N; Simpson, Y.
ILLINOIS
Democrats — Bean, Y; Costello, N; Davis, Y; Emanuel, Y; Foster, Y; Gutierrez, Y; Hare, Y; Jackson, N; Lipinski, N; Rush, N; Schakowsky, Y.
Republicans — Biggert, N; Johnson, N; Kirk, Y; LaHood, Y; Manzullo, N; Roskam, N; Shimkus, N; Weller, X.
INDIANA
Democrats — Carson, N; Donnelly, Y; Ellsworth, Y; Hill, N; Visclosky, N.
Republicans — Burton, N; Buyer, N; Pence, N; Souder, Y.
IOWA
Democrats — Boswell, Y; Braley, N; Loebsack, Y.
Republicans — King, N; Latham, N.
KANSAS
Democrats — Boyda, N; Moore, Y.
Republicans — Moran, N; Tiahrt, N.
KENTUCKY
Democrats — Chandler, N; Yarmuth, N.
Republicans — Davis, N; Lewis, Y; Rogers, Y; Whitfield, N.
LOUISIANA
Democrats — Cazayoux, N; Jefferson, N; Melancon, Y.
Republicans — Alexander, N; Boustany, N; McCrery, Y; Scalise, N.
MAINE
Democrats — Allen, Y; Michaud, N.
MARYLAND
Democrats — Cummings, N; Edwards, N; Hoyer, Y; Ruppersberger, Y; Sarbanes, Y; Van Hollen, Y.
Republicans — Bartlett, N; Gilchrest, Y.
MASSACHUSETTS
Democrats — Capuano, Y; Delahunt, N; Frank, Y; Lynch, N; Markey, Y; McGovern, Y; Neal, Y; Olver, Y; Tierney, N; Tsongas, Y.
MICHIGAN
Democrats — Conyers, N; Dingell, Y; Kildee, Y; Kilpatrick, N; Levin, Y; Stupak, N.
Republicans — Camp, Y; Ehlers, Y; Hoekstra, N; Knollenberg, N; McCotter, N; Miller, N; Rogers, N; Upton, Y; Walberg, N.
MINNESOTA
Democrats — Ellison, Y; McCollum, Y; Oberstar, Y; Peterson, N; Walz, N.
Republicans — Bachmann, N; Kline, Y; Ramstad, N.
MISSISSIPPI
Democrats — Childers, N; Taylor, N; Thompson, N.
Republicans — Pickering, Y.
MISSOURI
Democrats — Carnahan, Y; Clay, N; Cleaver, N; Skelton, Y.
Republicans — Akin, N; Blunt, Y; Emerson, Y; Graves, N; Hulshof, N.
MONTANA
Republicans — Rehberg, N.
NEBRASKA
Republicans — Fortenberry, N; Smith, N; Terry, N.
NEVADA
Democrats — Berkley, N.
Republicans — Heller, N; Porter, Y.
NEW HAMPSHIRE
Democrats — Hodes, N; Shea-Porter, N.
NEW JERSEY
Democrats — Andrews, Y; Holt, Y; Pallone, Y; Pascrell, N; Payne, N; Rothman, N; Sires, Y.
Republicans — Ferguson, Y; Frelinghuysen, N; Garrett, N; LoBiondo, N; Saxton, Y; Smith, N.
NEW MEXICO
Democrats — Udall, N.
Republicans — Pearce, N; Wilson, Y.
NEW YORK
Democrats — Ackerman, Y; Arcuri, Y; Bishop, Y; Clarke, Y; Crowley, Y; Engel, Y; Gillibrand, N; Hall, Y; Higgins, Y; Hinchey, N; Israel, Y; Lowey, Y; Maloney, Y; McCarthy, Y; McNulty, Y; Meeks, Y; Nadler, Y; Rangel, Y; Serrano, N; Slaughter, Y; Towns, Y; Velazquez, Y; Weiner, Y.
Republicans — Fossella, Y; King, Y; Kuhl, N; McHugh, Y; Reynolds, Y; Walsh, Y.
NORTH CAROLINA
Democrats — Butterfield, N; Etheridge, Y; McIntyre, N; Miller, Y; Price, Y; Shuler, N; Watt, Y.
Republicans — Coble, N; Foxx, N; Hayes, N; Jones, N; McHenry, N; Myrick, N.
NORTH DAKOTA
Democrats — Pomeroy, Y.
OHIO
Democrats — Kaptur, N; Kucinich, N; Ryan, Y; Space, Y; Sutton, N; Wilson, Y.
Republicans — Boehner, Y; Chabot, N; Hobson, Y; Jordan, N; LaTourette, N; Latta, N; Pryce, Y; Regula, Y; Schmidt, N; Tiberi, N; Turner, N.
OKLAHOMA
Democrats — Boren, Y.
Republicans — Cole, Y; Fallin, N; Lucas, N; Sullivan, N.
OREGON
Democrats — Blumenauer, N; DeFazio, N; Hooley, Y; Wu, N.
Republicans — Walden, Y.
PENNSYLVANIA
Democrats — Altmire, N; Brady, Y; Carney, N; Doyle, Y; Fattah, Y; Holden, N; Kanjorski, Y; Murphy, Patrick, Y; Murtha, Y; Schwartz, Y; Sestak, Y.
Republicans — Dent, N; English, N; Gerlach, N; Murphy, Tim, N; Peterson, Y; Pitts, N; Platts, N; Shuster, N.
RHODE ISLAND
Democrats — Kennedy, Y; Langevin, Y.
SOUTH CAROLINA
Democrats — Clyburn, Y; Spratt, Y.
Republicans — Barrett, N; Brown, Y; Inglis, Y; Wilson, Y.
SOUTH DAKOTA
Democrats — Herseth Sandlin, N.
TENNESSEE
Democrats — Cohen, Y; Cooper, Y; Davis, Lincoln, N; Gordon, Y; Tanner, Y.
Republicans — Blackburn, N; Davis, David, N; Duncan, N; Wamp, N.
TEXAS
Democrats — Cuellar, N; Doggett, N; Edwards, Y; Gonzalez, Y; Green, Al, N; Green, Gene, N; Hinojosa, Y; Jackson-Lee, N; Johnson, E. B., Y; Lampson, N; Ortiz, N; Reyes, Y; Rodriguez, N.
Republicans — Barton, N; Brady, Y; Burgess, N; Carter, N; Conaway, N; Culberson, N; Gohmert, N; Granger, Y; Hall, N; Hensarling, N; Johnson, Sam, N; Marchant, N; McCaul, N; Neugebauer, N; Paul, N; Poe, N; Sessions, Y; Smith, Y; Thornberry, N.
UTAH
Democrats — Matheson, N.
Republicans — Bishop, N; Cannon, Y.
VERMONT
Democrats — Welch, N.
VIRGINIA
Democrats — Boucher, Y; Moran, Y; Scott, N.
Republicans — Cantor, Y; Davis, Tom, Y; Drake, N; Forbes, N; Goode, N; Goodlatte, N; Wittman, N; Wolf, Y.
WASHINGTON
Democrats — Baird, Y; Dicks, Y; Inslee, N; Larsen, Y; McDermott, Y; Smith, Y.
Republicans — Hastings, N; McMorris Rodgers, N; Reichert, N.
WEST VIRGINIA
Democrats — Mollohan, Y; Rahall, Y.
Republicans — Capito, N.
WISCONSIN
Democrats — Baldwin, Y; Kagen, N; Kind, Y; Moore, Y; Obey, Y.
Republicans — Petri, N; Ryan, Y; Sensenbrenner, N.
WYOMING
Republicans — Cubin, Y.
atliberty
September 30, 2008
9:25 PM PDT

Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008 (tell your congressmen to vote NO)

I watch and listen to Democracy Now because I find it to be a progressive and factual source of news and information. During the story today Sept 30, 2008, about the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008, HR 3997, known as the Bail Out (which was dastardly lumped in with Sr. and Veteran benefits legislation); Amy said that the point drop the other day of 777 points was the largest "point drop" drop ever, true but... That statement without real truth and history plays into the panic that Bush and the money grabbers want right now. 777 points today is 6.8%, 500 points of Oct. 29, 1929 was 12.8%. Then, just like today; the system of speculators and moneychangers, were making a great deal more $ than workers and doers. From the day before the big crash started up until it bottomed out in 1932, the total drop was 89% below the peak, meaning if you had a dollar on Oct. 28 1929 and left your $ in their, you had 11 cents in 1932. As far as I'm concerned that is still pretty good for doing nothing but trying to live off of the crap table of life. Keep up the good work DN. Don't let them buffalo US.

The top 1% of the inverted pyramid of wealth who do no work, except follow the bottom line maximum profit for their money pied piper of the god Mammon; are to blame because they bought our legislature for too many years. All as the Bail Out Act does is reward them for their infinite greed. We the people just borrowed almost a trillion dollars from a private bank called the Federal Reserve to fight a war that Wall Street, the Pentagon and oil barrens have raked in billions on but they still want more. You see money at its best is an intangible tool we all agree to give value to in order to conveniently exchange goods and services. Interest is synonymous with usury, which is shunned in the Bible and forbidden in the Muslim religion, yet a necessary instrument of modern society. In other words if you let somebody use a pound of your salt you would maybe expect them to give you a pound and a quarter back after your being without your salt for two years, fair enough. There is another consideration, that of ownership and investment of wealth. If you own a company, I agree you should be able to make more than the average worker but nowadays the "average" disparity between worker compensation and the CEO is Satanistic!

The figures stand in stark contrast: the CEO of a large company pulls down an average $10.8 million per year in salary and bonuses. That doesn't count the value of perks and some stock options, whose value can run to many millions more. But the average worker makes only $29,544 —only about 160% of the poverty level for a family of four. http://www.socialfunds.com/news/article.cgi/2370.html

Why are persons that often give themselves bonuses when the companies they manage are going bankrupt worth 365 times what a trained tradesmen who must show up every day he is scheduled, be able to pass random urinalysis tests for drugs, and be treated as an instrument in the scheme of profit? Because we have allowed self-serving egotistical persons to occupy our elected government offices that are not representing the majority of the people in a democratic fashion. They have made our form of government into a plutocracy. In plane terms this means a government sold to the highest bidder. Here is an excerpt from somebody that explains the philosophy of a great many of our current sadisitic leaders:

Strauss, who died in 1973, believed in the inherent inequality of humanity. Most people, he famously taught, are too stupid to make informed decisions about their political affairs. Elite philosophers must decide on affairs of state for us.In Washington, Straussians exert powerful influence from within the inner circle of the White House. http://thetyee.ca/Mediacheck/2005/11/29/HarperBush/


This is not Levi Strauss who with a partner invented blue jeans. Here is what was said about Levi: "Fairness and integrity in his dealings with his Eastern factors and his customers and liberality toward his employees soon gave the house a standing second to none on the coast." http://www.fashion-forum.org/fashion-brands/levis.html
Now this is the kind of CEO we need today! Instead the Levi Strauss Company had Philip Marineau as CEO from 1999 to 2006. In 2002 he lead the company to close all North Amerikan production facilities and outsource all manufacturing to maximize profit for the companies stack holders. For doing this he received a purported 25 million dollar bonus. I don't mean to pick on poor Phil or Levis. This is just one example of current corporate leadership gone to the god mammon.

What to do? Call, write and email your Congressmen and Senators EMEDIATELY, and tomorrow morning and tell them to vote no on this Bail Out legislation and keep voting no until Bush and the neo-capitalists go away and ask no more. We need money to return to being a method through with to exchange goods and services and away from being pieces of paper representing nothing but a cesspool of wanton greed. We need leaders and CEOs that are willing to give up the bottom line and be part of America to invest in America so our money once again represents the value of the hard work of the American people.